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so just by showing up, you would think that romney's a slight favorite right now. we have seen obama recently in a higher position than he's been in all year, maybe higher than you would expect based on where the economy is. so i do think romney should have a tail wind at the same time the stuff we're mentioning where he also has tried to avoid articulating where his positions are on a lot of issues, a lot that is common sense but if you take positions further away from the center that damages you and he's not done a lot of running to the center at all in this campaign. that's unusual and he'll be proebds for more detail during the debate. >> the american public or people are crying out for the etch a sketch moment. joy, in terms of managing expectations, the guy that has managed them in his own fashion is chris christie. i want to play a little chris christie sound doubling down on the fact that this is a big deal tomorrow night for mitt romney. >> this whole race will be turned upside down thursday morning. >> what are you doing, christie? for god sake's if romne
so just by showing up, you would think that romney's a slight favorite right now. we have seen obama recently in a higher position than he's been in all year, maybe higher than you would expect based on where the economy is. so i do think romney should have a tail wind at the same time the stuff we're mentioning where he also has tried to avoid articulating where his positions are on a lot of issues, a lot that is common sense but if you take positions further away from the center that damages...
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for the romney campaign where they are right now, the national polls tighten a little bit, but the battleground polls is he still has a major problem. it's the narrative killing this campaign, and he has to change that narrative. he has to be extremely aggressive and respectful at the same time while also being elm thettic and delivering specifics. that's a lot to do in a 90-minute debate. i think the challenge for both candidates and where president obama may have a strength. rom knee, i don't know if he does or not, the no time limit. you have no time limit on these answers can be dangerous and an incredible opportunity. >> you can talk yourself in a hole. >> you can talk yourself in a hole, but you can use it to frame and box your opponent in. >> we'll see if there's a clear winner. thank you very much, michael. thank you, chris. it's always a pleasure. >>> a huge victory for democrats in pennsylvania in a hard-fought battle against that state's new voter i.d. law for now. a judge in the past few hours blocked the law from goalkeeper into effect. judge simpson ordered the sat not to enforce
for the romney campaign where they are right now, the national polls tighten a little bit, but the battleground polls is he still has a major problem. it's the narrative killing this campaign, and he has to change that narrative. he has to be extremely aggressive and respectful at the same time while also being elm thettic and delivering specifics. that's a lot to do in a 90-minute debate. i think the challenge for both candidates and where president obama may have a strength. rom knee, i don't...
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they're going to try to right the ship on wednesday. but if you look at the numbers, a lot of the damage was done over the summer when the obama campaign decided early on to define mitt romney as a plutokrat, someone out of touch with the main stream and romney doubles down on obama's strategy with this video that came out. so they're in a real situation here and they've got a short time to right it. >> it's offensive if you unpack and think about it. what he's saying is we're all stupid. we don't remember that the polls have shown republicans up a lot. and secondly this idea that people in the media, if their personal views go one way, the product of the reporting goes another way. i don't think there's resonating with the public at all. if you go back to important media failures like the iraq war or the financial crisis, on iraq there may have been a lot of reporters who were personally skeptical but there was a collective media failure in the way they covered it. so the idea that someone's personal views are always going to represent
they're going to try to right the ship on wednesday. but if you look at the numbers, a lot of the damage was done over the summer when the obama campaign decided early on to define mitt romney as a plutokrat, someone out of touch with the main stream and romney doubles down on obama's strategy with this video that came out. so they're in a real situation here and they've got a short time to right it. >> it's offensive if you unpack and think about it. what he's saying is we're all stupid....
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right. yet he does have -- it's partly it's proffesorial. when he looks like john kennedy he's on an upslope. he's not so good when he thinks he is way ahead and konts respect an opponent. i have a hunch he is hearing that from his folks in that room in nevada saying, you can't make a mistake like that. >> part of it is who you compare him to. he's aloof compared to bill clinton. bill clinton has a touch. >> everyone is aloof compared to bill clinton. >> exactly. >> let's talk about mitt romney. strengths, weakness. >> mitt romney's strength is that he is, comes across as competent, as a capable human being. as somebody who projects an air of authority, especially when he talks about the economy. that is the private sector track record. the flip side, the weakness is the 47%. some of the attacks he's taken in terms of that business record. i think mitt romney's biggest problem though, chris, is the sense people can't be sure exactly if he believes what he's saying. he needs to project authen
right. yet he does have -- it's partly it's proffesorial. when he looks like john kennedy he's on an upslope. he's not so good when he thinks he is way ahead and konts respect an opponent. i have a hunch he is hearing that from his folks in that room in nevada saying, you can't make a mistake like that. >> part of it is who you compare him to. he's aloof compared to bill clinton. bill clinton has a touch. >> everyone is aloof compared to bill clinton. >> exactly. >>...
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. >> i get to respond, right? >> mitt romney was able to beat his republican challengers with tough rebuttals and good lines. he's been prepping extensively for the debate tomorrow night. is that a good thing or bad thing? does he run the risk coming across too rehearsed? >> the fact they are spending eight days in debate camp is unprecedented, no question about that. the danger of that is you overprogram the guy to the point where he gets on that stage and he is in some invisible straitjacket. that's the last thing they need. bill clinton said something smart about debates. they are like jazz. there is a melody you have to play, but you have to be able to imp improvi improvise, as well. if you're too rigid, you don't hear the opportunity to riff. >> there is a rich history and not all of them involve what the candidate said rather than what they did. when president bush was checking his watch. the cut-aways are so pivotal to see what type of response the other candidate is having. the reaction, that is. both side
. >> i get to respond, right? >> mitt romney was able to beat his republican challengers with tough rebuttals and good lines. he's been prepping extensively for the debate tomorrow night. is that a good thing or bad thing? does he run the risk coming across too rehearsed? >> the fact they are spending eight days in debate camp is unprecedented, no question about that. the danger of that is you overprogram the guy to the point where he gets on that stage and he is in some...
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all right. howard fineman, thanks for your time tonight. good to have you here in denver. remember to answer tonight's question. share jr. thoughts on twitter at @edshow. coming up, chris christie says mitt romney will turn the presidential race upside down with his debate performance? chris california fee nous joins me for the co favorite surrogate >>> and buddy chris christie says that the candidate is going to wipe the floor with president obama. really? the campaign says mitt romney is working on some zingers. this could get ugly. and very entertaining. >>> the second debate between elizabeth warren and scott brown has just ended. >>> and another big debate tonight. and you are going to see the coverage right here before anywhere else. democrat wayne powell just finishes debate with eric cantor. i'll talk to the man trying to unseat one of the biggest obstructionists in congress. share your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter using the hash tag ed show. >>> welcome back to "the ed sh
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right now he trails the president in every battleground state. a new quinnipiac poll out this morning shows president obama has an 18 point lead over romney among women. nbc's brian mooar joins us from washington with more on all this. brian, good morning. >> reporter: for both campaigns this first debate is filled can challenge and opportunity. as denver gets ready for tomorrow night's first presidential debate, so are the candidates. >> it'll be a conversation with the american people that will span almost an entire month. we'll get to describe our respective views. >> reporter: romney is hoping to pick up a few votes with an endorsement from football great john elway. president obama is taking the personal approach to nail down support. >> this is barack obama. >> reporter: and like romney, the president sees this debate as a chance to talk to america. >> it's a choice between two different paths for this country. it's a choice between two fundamentally different visions for our nation. >> reporter: the president has a lead in all nine of the
right now he trails the president in every battleground state. a new quinnipiac poll out this morning shows president obama has an 18 point lead over romney among women. nbc's brian mooar joins us from washington with more on all this. brian, good morning. >> reporter: for both campaigns this first debate is filled can challenge and opportunity. as denver gets ready for tomorrow night's first presidential debate, so are the candidates. >> it'll be a conversation with the american...
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i think mitt romney needs this to be that catalyst. >> okay. are you just trying to be right here? when you say they're both right it makes me think you're trying to hedge a bet here. one person said that there is not a make or break moment or they don't expect and that was paul ryan. chris christie said the next day, thursday, will be romney's time to shine because we will all be talking about how he basically hit it out of the park? >> well, you know, chris christie has a babe ruth in him, likes to point to the outfield and put mustache on the hot dog. i don't know that mitt romney is capable of one. but what mitt romney needs to do is begin a real conversation that's months overdue with the american people about why his presidency would be superior for the next four years and this is his last best chance to open and begin a conversation that's three months overdue. >> so michael, let me bring you in. "the washington post" asked folks who will win the debate. 55% said president obama, 31% said mitt romney. what do you think they're basing that on? >> i think they're basing it on
i think mitt romney needs this to be that catalyst. >> okay. are you just trying to be right here? when you say they're both right it makes me think you're trying to hedge a bet here. one person said that there is not a make or break moment or they don't expect and that was paul ryan. chris christie said the next day, thursday, will be romney's time to shine because we will all be talking about how he basically hit it out of the park? >> well, you know, chris christie has a babe...
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right now by nine points. the other big home state newspaper poll was from the des moines register. according to that poll, the des moines register poll in iowa, president obama is leading by four points. there are a ton of national tracking polls out today. and spoiler alert, they all show president obama ahead by a few points. in terms of the senate races, that same columbus poll out of ohio that shows president obama ahead it shows sherrod brown leading by ten points. heading into the elizabeth warren and scot brown debate in massachusetts, we'll be talking about that in a moment, there's a new poll out today in massachusetts that has elizabeth warren over scott brown by two. in pennsylvania, a newspaper poll released over the weekend put the democrat in that race bob casey ahead of his republican challenger by eight points. as mitt romney's, shall we say, second place standing starts to look like more and more of a permanent residence as it seems like a long shot for winning the presidency, the down ticket
right now by nine points. the other big home state newspaper poll was from the des moines register. according to that poll, the des moines register poll in iowa, president obama is leading by four points. there are a ton of national tracking polls out today. and spoiler alert, they all show president obama ahead by a few points. in terms of the senate races, that same columbus poll out of ohio that shows president obama ahead it shows sherrod brown leading by ten points. heading into the...
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they're making me do my homework. >>. >> right now they're drilling him on basic grammar skills. >> romney's people are just hoping he remains upright. >> let's get to our panel. we're joining by a laughing krystal ball and joy reid. joy, there's a new poll which shows the president enjoys an 18-point advantage over mitt romney among women, but i guess that's another dirty trook trick by the liberal media. >> can we show the unskewed rsion of that poll? >> even at 18%. >> i think the problem for mitt romney, it isn't women's issues, it's also medicare. more women than men are concerned about taking care of their parents, and i think just the overall gamut of issues sort of favor the president with women, and i'll tell what you, mitt romney could only overcome a gap like that with women if he had a comparable gap among seniors. i think when you combine the gender gap with now the shrinking age gap, problems for romney. >> okay. well, krystal, to joy's point, mr. romney is increasingly relied upon his wife to connect to women. take a listen. here she is. >> this is the mitt romney i know, and
they're making me do my homework. >>. >> right now they're drilling him on basic grammar skills. >> romney's people are just hoping he remains upright. >> let's get to our panel. we're joining by a laughing krystal ball and joy reid. joy, there's a new poll which shows the president enjoys an 18-point advantage over mitt romney among women, but i guess that's another dirty trook trick by the liberal media. >> can we show the unskewed rsion of that poll? >>...
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they're making me do my homework. >>. >> right now they're drilling him on basic grammar skills. >> romney's people are just hoping he remains upright. >> let's get to our panel. we're joining by a laughing krystal ball and joy reid. joy, there's a new poll which shows the president enjoys an 18-point advantage over mitt romney among women, but i guess that's another dirty trook trick by the liberal media. >> can we show the unskewed version of that poll? >> even at 18%. >> i think the problem for mitt romney, it isn't women's issues, it's also medicare. more women than men are concerned about taking care of their parents, and i think just the overall gamut of issues sort of favor the president with women, and i'll tell what you, mitt romney could only overcome a gap like that with women if he had a comparable gap among seniors. i think when you combine the gender gap with now the shrinking age gap, problems for romney. >> okay. well, krystal, to joy's point, mr. romney is increasingly relied upon his wife to connect to women. take a listen. here she is. >> this is the mitt romney i know, an
they're making me do my homework. >>. >> right now they're drilling him on basic grammar skills. >> romney's people are just hoping he remains upright. >> let's get to our panel. we're joining by a laughing krystal ball and joy reid. joy, there's a new poll which shows the president enjoys an 18-point advantage over mitt romney among women, but i guess that's another dirty trook trick by the liberal media. >> can we show the unskewed version of that poll? >>...
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camp is that he brought up romney care. that was really -- wow. they are trying to react to this 47% video, which is so damaging right? >> yeah, that's true. i think where we are, is we just have to keep reminding supporters that this race will be close because the country is divided. it is not over until the fat lady sings. so we have a little while to go here. >> stephanie: people have pointed that out, jen, obviously people that want to see a horse race say carter was ahead by the same amount over reagan at this point, and blah blah, blah. how concerned are you? >> we think the polls will narrow, just because we're not going to win some of these states by the amount where the polls show them at this stage. and that's a natural part of the ebbs and flows of any campaign. and we want to make sure that somebody who supports the president doesn't say i don't really need to get out there and register, because this thing is locked. and it's not locked. and that's one of the things we're worried about and focus on every day. >>
camp is that he brought up romney care. that was really -- wow. they are trying to react to this 47% video, which is so damaging right? >> yeah, that's true. i think where we are, is we just have to keep reminding supporters that this race will be close because the country is divided. it is not over until the fat lady sings. so we have a little while to go here. >> stephanie: people have pointed that out, jen, obviously people that want to see a horse race say carter was ahead by...
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there's enormous pressure on president obama and governor romney right now. we're asking debate watchers, those who watched the debate to the history books. tonight, just like we will after every upcoming debate, we're breaking it down, issue by issue. this means more talk from the candidate on a particular topic. looking at some of the totals, we'll show you what's going on. but, first, here are some of the highlights from the first presidential debate. >> what things would i cut from spending? first of all, i will eliminate all programs by this test. if they don't pass it. is the program so critical, it's worth boring money from china to pay for it? obama care is on my list. i apologize mr. president. jim, i'm sorry, i had stop the subsidy to pbs. i love big bird, like you too. but i won't keep on spending money to borrow money from china to pay for. i'll take programs that are currently good programs but could be run more efficiently at the state level and send them to state. and make government more efficient, cut back the number of employees, combine age
there's enormous pressure on president obama and governor romney right now. we're asking debate watchers, those who watched the debate to the history books. tonight, just like we will after every upcoming debate, we're breaking it down, issue by issue. this means more talk from the candidate on a particular topic. looking at some of the totals, we'll show you what's going on. but, first, here are some of the highlights from the first presidential debate. >> what things would i cut from...
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. >>> right now president obama and governor romney are getting ready for this week's big battle. first presidential debate. our next guest says it's the last cans to make that first impression. governor romney needs to figure out how to appear aggressive but nice while the president needs to avoid missteps. john fund is co-author of "who is counting?" great to see you. i was going to ask you first. is it a question when it comes to a first debate of first impression, what is the impact? >> for the challenger in this case, mitt romney it's very important because a lot of american people have only seen soundbites of him. this is almost like a job application. the first time the american people are going to be able seeing mitt romney for 90 minutes straight. therefore, it's very important he make a good i am presenting. for the president. this is president that was elected on enormous upsurge, hope and change in 2008. economy the sour. he has to recapture that and explain to the american people why they should waited longer for hope and change. >> jamie: what do you think is the mos
. >>> right now president obama and governor romney are getting ready for this week's big battle. first presidential debate. our next guest says it's the last cans to make that first impression. governor romney needs to figure out how to appear aggressive but nice while the president needs to avoid missteps. john fund is co-author of "who is counting?" great to see you. i was going to ask you first. is it a question when it comes to a first debate of first impression, what is...
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all right. howard fineman, thanks for your time tonight. good to have you here in denver. remember to answer tonight's question. their your thoughts on twitter and on facebook. coming up, chris christie says mitt romney will turn the presidential race upside down with his debate performance? chris kofinis joins me for the conversation. stay with us. we've right back. and the world's only tridion safety cell which can withstand over three and a half tons. right back. right back.re righ. tridion safety cell with the blackish-blue frame and the white dots and the splattered paint pattern, your lights are on. what? [ male announcer ] the endlessly customizable 2013 smart. >>> coming up, mitt romney, his favorite surrogate and buddy chris christie says that the candidate is going to wipe the floor with president obama. really? the campaign says mitt romney is working on some zingers. this could get ugly. and very entertaining. >>> the second debate between elizabeth warren and scott brown has just en
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not everyone is willing to admit president obama is actually leading mitt romney right now. despite what the polling data shows. well, stephen colbert weighed in. >> you can't trust polls, right fox news? >> the latest fox news polls give president obama an edge in three key swing states. once you isolate voters who are extremely interested in the election, the race is much closer. >> romney's tied when you focus on the inexpressibly intrigued. and he's up by two points when you count only voters who are psychotically engaged. folks, i have got my own source of polls, conservative blogger dean chambers who analyzed these polls favoring obama and then reached the scientific conclusion that they just didn't look right. chambers' work throws all polls into doubt now. even the internal ones i have taken of myself. i mean, the results say i'm not that excited about mitt romney, but as a conservative i feel like i should love him. maybe the sample size is too small or maybe i checked the wrong box and i'm actually latino, you know? >> it's not a good sign just six weeks from elect
not everyone is willing to admit president obama is actually leading mitt romney right now. despite what the polling data shows. well, stephen colbert weighed in. >> you can't trust polls, right fox news? >> the latest fox news polls give president obama an edge in three key swing states. once you isolate voters who are extremely interested in the election, the race is much closer. >> romney's tied when you focus on the inexpressibly intrigued. and he's up by two points when...
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turns out they were right on the mark. >> but the other quick point is governor romney left a lot on the table that is going to come back in the subsequent debates and it will be litigated in a much more fierce way than it was on wednesday night. >> the third debate is going to matter more than the first debate. it's the last one people see, although there is early voting. but by this point a month from now we may not be talking about this. >> you had not only the lack of specificity. it becomes a question of who do you trust. the budget is going to have to be cut and hard choices are going to have to be made. they both believe it. the question is who do you trust? the president talked about governor romney's screlt plans. that notice of secrecy showed up in focus groups. it's why when they talk about governor romney not releasing his tax returns -- gwen: which didn't come up. >> no. what governor romney is hiding is the argument that the democrats wants to be talking about. >> if the president had one good line it was on that issue. he basically said if mitt romney health care plan
turns out they were right on the mark. >> but the other quick point is governor romney left a lot on the table that is going to come back in the subsequent debates and it will be litigated in a much more fierce way than it was on wednesday night. >> the third debate is going to matter more than the first debate. it's the last one people see, although there is early voting. but by this point a month from now we may not be talking about this. >> you had not only the lack of...
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wait a second, romney rooip, romney, ryan. there we go. all right. that's great. >> oh sweet jesus. >>and now to my point. that is a whole bunch of bunk! the powerful my steal an election but they cannot steal democracy. septic disasters are disgusting and costly, but avoidable. the rid-x septic subscriber program helps prevent backups by sending you monthly doses right to your door so you will never forget to maintain your system. sign up at rid-x.com. are they contagious? i don't think so. [ male announcer ] contract the rainbow! taste the rainbow! >> eliot: in a climate worker rights have been under attack the teacher's strike resulted in significant gains for teachers and the educational reforms they support. in president of the american federation of teachers, the chicago teachers' national union, wrote and i quote . . . weingarten, the president of the american federation of teachers, the chicago teachers' national union. randi, thank for joining us. >> it's always great to be with you, eliot. >> eliot: thank you. you did reform late the education conversation with the strike.
wait a second, romney rooip, romney, ryan. there we go. all right. that's great. >> oh sweet jesus. >>and now to my point. that is a whole bunch of bunk! the powerful my steal an election but they cannot steal democracy. septic disasters are disgusting and costly, but avoidable. the rid-x septic subscriber program helps prevent backups by sending you monthly doses right to your door so you will never forget to maintain your system. sign up at rid-x.com. are they contagious? i don't...
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the more money did not feed into a larger narrative in a way that i think the romney campaign would have preferred. a second reason why it is less effective now is under sec rules, the super pac campaign are able to get lowest available rate for their advertising right now. super pacs are not allowed to do that. they are spending far more, sometimes three times as much, and to get the same money. did the third reason i think you're seeing things less effective, in the last month or citizens are waking up and spending more dollars. a bunch of people were coming at the last minute. we have not really seen that. the small dollar fund-raising model has been able to expand nicely for obama toward the end. romney has had to spend a good fortune in september going to fund-raisers trying to collect these $2,500 checks. he has been very successful. it really was a strategic disadvantage at that time in the race. we can get into some of the other questions here. the other thing i would say is that i think there is going to be an interesting political legacy of this election. in all the elections i
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and -- have hurt mitt romney and yet there is an increasing industry growing up on the right to just deny this. and i'm not even sure like what the point of it is. i mean, maybe you're right, but then isn't it all just going to on election day be exposed as like -- i'm just fascinated by the growth of this industry, joe. >> well, one of the things that i see, and this is outside of politics because i write about economics so much, is i use charts a lot in my writing, you know, comparing public sector employment, private sector. i see the same thing all the time. this aggression against data or they're convinced that all data is manipulated darks at that is a lie. if i show that private sector employment has actually done relatively well under obama, relatively well compared to past recoveries and most of the job losses have been in the public sector, people think it's a lie. the debate ends because i can't, you know -- there's nowhere to go from there. they refuse to believe it. i see this happen -- so i see this happen all the time. i think what i thought when i saw the unskewed pol
and -- have hurt mitt romney and yet there is an increasing industry growing up on the right to just deny this. and i'm not even sure like what the point of it is. i mean, maybe you're right, but then isn't it all just going to on election day be exposed as like -- i'm just fascinated by the growth of this industry, joe. >> well, one of the things that i see, and this is outside of politics because i write about economics so much, is i use charts a lot in my writing, you know, comparing...
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in the mid 40s or so, so mitt romney is within striking distance right now but there's no doubt that 47% comment did hurt him. >> chris cizilla, a decision today in pennsylvania, a legal decision. >> yep. >> which could have a big impact because if pennsylvania ever were going to be in play, now it will not according to what the republican hopes had been. this was the voter i.d. law and struck down by a judge, said there's no way to get voter i.d.s to so many people in time for election day. >> right. this was always i think because as you point out, a narrow timeline, five weeks to the day from the election, but what this does is it does not put that strict voter i.d. law in place for pennsylvania. and i think barring some change or data i've not seen, i'm not convinced pennsylvania was in play even if law had been upheld. i just don't think the votes add up for republicans in pennsylvania. i always say it's like charlie brown, lucy and the football. every time charlie brown tries to kick the football, lucy pulls it away. that's pennsylvania for republicans. look at the numbers and
in the mid 40s or so, so mitt romney is within striking distance right now but there's no doubt that 47% comment did hurt him. >> chris cizilla, a decision today in pennsylvania, a legal decision. >> yep. >> which could have a big impact because if pennsylvania ever were going to be in play, now it will not according to what the republican hopes had been. this was the voter i.d. law and struck down by a judge, said there's no way to get voter i.d.s to so many people in time...
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of which have become common place to the point of cliche in right wing circles and ones in which romney offered inside the safety and conservative bubble and it was leaked out. in the song, 10 crack commandments biggie smalls offered a set of rules for drug dealers who want to avoid perils. >> never get high on your own supply. >> same with political strategists. don't start believing that everyone out there in the voting booth is seeing the world the way you do. the gop has i think lost sight of this simple wisdom. they are now smoking what they're dealing. it's a big part of why those poll numbers look the way they do and a good reminder of the dysfunction and incompetence that happen when people in charge only listen to themselves. i'm going to talk to my panel about the consequences of living inside the conservative bubble when we get back. maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ...nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can i
of which have become common place to the point of cliche in right wing circles and ones in which romney offered inside the safety and conservative bubble and it was leaked out. in the song, 10 crack commandments biggie smalls offered a set of rules for drug dealers who want to avoid perils. >> never get high on your own supply. >> same with political strategists. don't start believing that everyone out there in the voting booth is seeing the world the way you do. the gop has i think...
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joy, this is a bad place for romney to go. >> this was the one bone to romney threw to the far right. they have this obsession with
joy, this is a bad place for romney to go. >> this was the one bone to romney threw to the far right. they have this obsession with
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bush had trouble with. >> eliot: you're right. romney came across as smart. that's what affected it. doug, my question was every time i heard the $5 trillion gig, why did the president not turn to him and say if you do not plan to add a $5 trillion revenue loss what loopholes will you close? give us the broad brush outlines because without that, you don't have credibility. it would have seemed to me to be the appropriate response. >> absolutely. he could have just kept pressing him and i -- before the debate, my whole view was the president needs to spend little bit of time on defense and then just go on the offense. because mitt romney is so vulnerable to attacks not only on his current policies but on his previous policies and in being a flip-flopper and certainly his time as a businessman which really didn't come up that much which was surprising. certainly the president didn't press it but you didn't hear a lot about mitt romney talking about and bragging about how he created jobs because he knew he was vulnerable there. you didn't hear a lot about his ti
bush had trouble with. >> eliot: you're right. romney came across as smart. that's what affected it. doug, my question was every time i heard the $5 trillion gig, why did the president not turn to him and say if you do not plan to add a $5 trillion revenue loss what loopholes will you close? give us the broad brush outlines because without that, you don't have credibility. it would have seemed to me to be the appropriate response. >> absolutely. he could have just kept pressing him...
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